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Clair Bear
Coalition of Nations
Free Trade Zone.
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Posted - 2008.08.28 01:46:00 -
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1. Minerals I mine are free.
2. Modules I get off of rats or other players are free.
3. Datacores are free.
4. ISK I get from rat bounties are free.
All of these are true statements in that I exchange no currency, virtual or otherwise for the goods mentioned above. I believe in getting more free stuff for my free stuff, but others may have dissenting opinions.
And oh yes, what everyone else said re: buying and relisting. If it's not worth doing then the 'noobs' priced correctly.
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Clair Bear
Coalition of Nations
Free Trade Zone.
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Posted - 2008.08.28 15:25:00 -
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Edited by: Clair Bear on 28/08/2008 15:29:00
 Originally by: Inoshuu
It's like you're saying that you work for free...nice, can I hire you in RL?
Reading comprehension, people. I said I prefer *MORE* free stuff for my free stuff, but I can see how others might believe otherwise.
This is a recreational activity (unless you sell in game assets for real currency, in which case I loathe you). Some people like to spend their $15/month or ISK equivalent camping gates or shooting POSes. Some like AFK cloaking all day. Some like to stare at rocks.
End result: cost/benefit analysis may use a different input for the benefit side than the one you're using. Deal with it and profit from it if you can.
There's a guy I suicided last time I was in empire. He was mining ice with a rigged hulk. 200+M ship to earn what, 2M/hour? Compare *that* to any 'noob' making ships from 'free' minerals.
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Clair Bear
Coalition of Nations
Free Trade Zone.
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Posted - 2008.08.28 19:58:00 -
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Edited by: Clair Bear on 28/08/2008 19:57:49
Originally by: Shadarle
Would he be less stupid to mine ice in a crappier ship?
Yes.
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And the last time I checked (which was a year ago), mining ice was a pretty decent way to make money in high-sec. Perhaps this has changed, but I fail to see why mining Ice in a hulk is stupid. That's like saying someone is stupid for running level 3 missions in a nighthawk with faction fittings. Sure, he may be able to do level 4's... but perhaps he is afk a lot and doesn't want to take risks. It's never stupid to use the biggest baddest ship you can fly if it makes you more money or allows you to do something AFK instead of forcing you to actively participate all day long.
In the last two years there hasn't been a single time when empire ice mining reached over 6M/hour. It's currently between 2 and 3M/hour.
As far as playing eve AFK in a defenseless, valuable, paper-thin ship -- well, now he's at least 100 hours of 'fun' in the hole with that 'risk free' activity. The macrointel killboard guestimates almost 300M loss. If he had been unrigged or in a mack or mining veld in a covetor I'd have probably moved on.
I completely disagree regarding pimping out never being stupid -- feel free to fit a CNR with the best faction gear you can afford. I'll guarantee you'll run missions faster than anyone else while AFK. At least once or twice.
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